Discipleship: Are Denominations In The Bible? (LIVE Multi-Cast)

By on 6-28-2013 in Discipleship

Dr. Joe Miller (aka JR) is a Professor of Applied Theology and Leadership & Dean of Online Learning at Southern California Seminary. In addition, he is a church planter and coach for other young leaders. Dr. Miller has a diverse educational background and authored multiple books on church history, biblical theology, and Leadership. Joe and his wife Suzanne enjoy the sun and surf with their 3 sons in San Diego, CA.

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On this LIVE edition Tony Marino and Pastors +Brian Whiteside, +Michael Duncan, and Dr. +Jeff Klick discuss “Discipleship: What If the Bible was Written Today?” We team God’s Word with our latest book, “The Discipling Church.” Guest Panelists +J.R. Miller (Dr. Joe Miller), +Jason Velotta, +Lyn Smith, +Tim Young, +Ed Hook,  and  +Shawn Savage (Shawn & Caroline Savage).

Post-Show Notes

Today’s show ended up focusing on the question of denominations are are they biblical. We had a vibrant discussion that did get a little heated in the middle, but the discussion was an important one.

Dr. Joe Miller (aka JR) is a Professor of Applied Theology and Leadership & Dean of Online Learning at Southern California Seminary. In addition, he is a church planter and coach for other young leaders. Dr. Miller has a diverse educational background and authored multiple books on church history, biblical theology, and Leadership. Joe and his wife Suzanne enjoy the sun and surf with their 3 sons in San Diego, CA.

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  • Jack Hairston

    May I suggest that denominations (Latin: de nomine (about a name)) are in the Bible. 1 Corinthians 1:11-12 tells of Christians quarreling over names: Apollos, Cephas, Paul, and even Christ. Alas, they received no approval.
    Max Lucado once said, “Denominations are a luxury we can no longer afford.” I agree.

    • http://www.MoreThanCake.org/ J.R. Miller

      Hi Jack,I agree with you brother insofar as any group promotes division in the body (which is what the Greek term for heretic means), it is bad and should be abandoned.

    • http://www.MoreThanCake.org/ J.R. Miller

      I should also add that that goes beyond “denominations” to individuals who become a source of division… such as, “My pastor says….” and anyone who disagrees is considered anathema. We too often put obedience to a human leader above our obedience and unity in Christ.

  • http://steve-finnell.blogspot.com/ steve finnell

    WHICH CHURCH?

    Jesus said I will build My church. Which church was that? Matthew 16:15-19….”But who do you say I am?” 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”…..18 I also say to you that are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven……(THE KEYS WERE USED IN ACTS CHAPTER 2)

    Did Jesus say I will build the Methodist Church, the Catholic Church, the Baptist Church, or any of the other 30,000 denominations?

    JESUS SAID I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH!

    HEAD OF THE CHURCH: Ephesians 5:23…as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body.

    The apostle Paul did not say, select a man on earth, or a national board and then appoint him or them as head of the church? Paul said Jesus was the head of the church.

    JESUS IS AND WILL BE, UNTIL HE RETURNS, THE HEAD OF HIS CHURCH.

    When the apostle Paul sent greetings to the Christians in Rome, he said; (Romans 16:16 ….All the churches of Christ send greeting.) Paul did not send greetings from the churches of Roman Catholics, nor from any other denomination. Paul was a member of the Lord’s church, not some denomination.

    Acts Chapter 2: The same Peter, who Jesus gave the keys to the kingdom of heaven told them how to become member of the kingdom of heaven here on earth, (the kingdom of heaven on earth is the church of Christ, the Lord’s church, the body of Christ)? Peter preach Jesus to them and when they believed, he told them to repent and be baptized so their sins could be forgiven, and they received the gift of the Holy Spirit and were added to the Lord’s church.

    Acts 2:40-41…..”Be saved from this perverse generation!” 41 So then, those who had received his word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls.

    They were added to the church only after they believed Peter’s preaching and were immersed in water.

    The Lord added the saved to His church. The Lord did not add them to the Roman Catholic Church, the Lutheran church, the Baptist Church, nor any of the other 30,000 denomination that exist today. (Acts 2:47… And the Lord was adding to their number day by day those who were being saved.)

    CAN JOINING A DENOMINATION SAVE ANYONE?

    Did the apostle Peter consult a man-made catechism, a creed book, or a denominational statement of faith before he preached on the Day of Pentecost?

    Revelation 20:15 And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

    Having you name written in the role book of one of the 30,000 denominations cannot keep you from being thrown into the lake of fire.

    When Jesus returns He is coming for His church. Is your name written in the Lamb’s book of life. (Revelation 21:1-27……27 but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

    Which church did Jesus die for? JESUS DIED FOR HIS CHURCH!

    ( All Scripture quotes from: NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE)

    YOU ARE INVITED TO FOLLOW MY CHRISTIAN BLOG. Google search>>. steve finnell a christian view

    • http://www.MoreThanCake.org/ J.R. Miller

      All important points you bring up. Thanks for taking the time to make such a thorough post.

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